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NowWhereWasI Member

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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: Disc Volume Label (where is the disc title info stored)? |
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| Hi, Does anyone know where the data is stored and in which ifo for the disc volume (Name)? I know that the Provider ID is stored in lines 40~45 of the TS.ifo but for the life of me, I can't find where Marks Player get's the info for the disc. Some of my disc's have it and some don't.. Make's you go Humm! N. |
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erdoke Respected Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Disc Volume Label (where is the disc title info stored)? |
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| NowWhereWasI wrote: | | Does anyone know where the data is stored and in which ifo for the disc volume (Name)? | I guess it is stored in VMG_TXTDT_MG (that is the DVD-Text data sector) of VIDEO_TS.IFO. |
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MackemX DVD Specialist
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| I guess this is the same info that shows in Windows's Explorer when you put in a DVD? is it not when you burn the Disc that it's stored as you can specify the volume label. I know you can change volume labels on ISO's but I don't think the data is actually stored in the VIDEO_TS folder within the IFO's |
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erdoke Respected Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that ISO file Volume Label is a completely different thing. DVD Text can contain info about the title of the movie and much more. |
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MackemX DVD Specialist
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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the Volume Label in an ISO is the same as a volume label on a physical disc . This is what gives the Disc it's name in Explorer etc and this is probably what Mark's Player picks up even though you navigate to the VIDEO_TS folder on the DVD. Obviously you cannot change this on the Disc but you can specify it when you burn if I use Mark's player to play a DVD on my Hard Drive, it picks up my actual Hard Drive Volume name you are right erdoke, the Volume Label has nothing to do with DVD Text  |
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erdoke Respected Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Then I misunderstood the initial question (Disc Volume Label vs. where is the disc title info stored). Disc Volume Label is not stored inside the DVD-Video structure. I thought that searching info in some of the IFOs means that "Volume Label" was just the wrong expression used instead of sg like "DVD title info". |
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NowWhereWasI Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: RE: Volume Naming Conventions |
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Hello and thanks for your responses, I should have stated more clearly the question. MackemX is correct with regards to 9660 labels on discs. Erdoke has presented some interesting information but I have not had a chance to test the DVD text string placeholder as of yet. If you open a disc from the DVD-Rom player marks player will indeed show the 9660 label from the disc. Now if your copy the disc to the hard drive and open the image from there. The player will display either one of the three following conditions the ISO9660, [The full disc label], or quotation marks if the disc label is unknown in the format "". It is the second condition that I'm trying to find and then use that as my default title identifier. BTW I use Nero to burn and it is limited to the 8.3 naming convention even though the option is set for ISO2 32 bit character labeling it titles. Ahead dosn't seem interested in making this a default parameter. I know it's possible since I've tried Copy to DVD and this software works great with Disc Titles but I'm having problems with disc speeds using the Patten-Coffin drivers used by that program. My 8x burner burns at 2.x speeds??? I intend to play around with Erdokes suggestion today or tomorrow and if I meet with any success, I'll post the results for others cause searching the knowledge bases at each site shows a lot of people asking this same question. N. |
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MackemX DVD Specialist
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| you would need a player capable of reading DVD Text if you mess around with the DVD Text as it's a totally different thing there was another DVD Text thread just recently http://cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1062 |
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NowWhereWasI Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: RE: Disc Titeling Info |
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| Hello, Thanks for the quick response MackemX your ARE fast man! Well I tried a few things last night this is what I found: Mark's Player get's it's title info from the Disc Label. once the disc has been ripped to HD it's title becomes "" regardless of info stored in VMG_TXTDT. Using rOlz's PGC edit makes changing (OR) creating that info a breeze. This information is read by the player's with multi-line Matrix Display's like the Jukebox style player's (mine is only the five disc player) and don't utilize this feature. The data there seems to be the type similiar to ID3 tagging of MP3 files used in MusicMatch to populate the Matrix display. In short I'm left with using CopyToDVD and burning at 2x if I want a professionally labeled style disc. Unless anyone knows of a better burning software than what I've tried/tested. anyway that's what I found out! |
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toaddub Moderator

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: RE: Disc Titeling Info |
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| NowWhereWasI wrote: | | In short I'm left with using CopyToDVD and burning at 2x if I want a professionally labeled style disc. Unless anyone knows of a better burning software than what I've tried/tested. | I don't think it's the burning software problem. Maybe you should upgrade the firmware for your DVD Burner. I have a LiteOn 411S, Dual 4x. Even though I upgraded my firmware at the LiteOn site, it burns at 2x for the TDK DVD-R 4x. Other media do not have that problem. After patching the firmware supplied at this site, http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?s=65790e80e9c06fe5e4804b3fd4b37709&f=61 my burner is upgraded to 8x, and is able to burn at 4x for the TDK DVD-R 4x media. So first try at the manufacturer site, if doesn't work, try the site above. |
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NowWhereWasI Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject: RE: Title Info - Possible Burner Firmware update. |
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| Hello, toaddub, Thanks for the info on you particular setup and your expericence with it. I just installed my current burner, I went from a Sony 510A which failed on me, to a Sony 8X dual-layer model (which I promptly returned due to it burning only about ~2cm across the disc and turning off the laser even though it reported a successfull burn. I ended up with a Lite-On 12x single layer unit which "screams" with Nero but when I use the CopyToDVD I can see the requested speed as 8x and effective speed running at 2.4x~2.65x. Going by real time it is taking about 20 minutes longer than a burn in Nero. I (d/l) the trial ver. of CopyToDVD and I have about a week left to figure out which s/w I want to keep using. I am using Memorex 8x media which CopyToDVD reports to be RitekG05 type discs. Not that 20 minutes will make much difference to me, it's just that I don't feel comfortable about not knowing what is going on in that time. Thanks again for your feedback! N. (P.S.) Forgot to mention that with this Lite-On unit I have flashed to the lastest firmware just to be on the same page with everyone else, even though It has worked great right out of the box. It was a very reasonable priced unit to boot. N. |
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erdoke Respected Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: RE: Title Info - Possible Burner Firmware update. |
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| NowWhereWasI wrote: | | I just installed my current burner, I went from a Sony 510A which failed on me, to a Sony 8X dual-layer model (which I promptly returned due to it burning only about ~2cm across the disc and turning off the laser even though it reported a successfull burn. I ended up with a Lite-On 12x single layer unit which "screams" with Nero but when I use the CopyToDVD I can see the requested speed as 8x and effective speed running at 2.4x~2.65x. Going by real time it is taking about 20 minutes longer than a burn in Nero. I (d/l) the trial ver. of CopyToDVD and I have about a week left to figure out which s/w I want to keep using. I am using Memorex 8x media which CopyToDVD reports to be RitekG05 type discs. Not that 20 minutes will make much difference to me, it's just that I don't feel comfortable about not knowing what is going on in that time. Thanks again for your feedback! | I guess it's my time when talking about computer hardware. Two suggestions. Always buy Pioneer DVD burner. Period. DVR-108 or A08 burner are the latest models. Use DVDDecrypter (freeware) to burn your DVD-Video or even data DVDs. For DVD-Video I recommend you latest ImgTool which is a freeware tool and can only create .iso images from folders containing VIDEO_TS subfolder. It uses DVDDecrypter to burn the image. BTW Decrypter shows you the current writing speed as well as the average and maximum speed (at the end of burning course). It's also useful to change Volume Label of .iso (and .img renamed to .iso) files.
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NowWhereWasI Member

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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject: RE: ImgTool |
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| Hello, Img Tool did the trick looks like another "Keeper" Thanks erdoke ! N. |
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