Button Higlights & Finishing Touch in DVD Remake Pro

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Hello fellow forummembers,

Problemdescription:

I made a 1 on 1 rip of the retail dvd of Blood Diamond (DVD 9). After that i wanted to reauthor this dvd in DVD Remake Pro.

Mainmovie properties in DVD Remake Pro:

Format: PAL (720x576)
Display: Wide (16:9)
Conversion to 4:3: letterbox

Menu properties in DVD Remake Pro:

Format: PAL (720x576)
Display: Wide (16:9)
Conversion to 4:3: pan/scan

Programmes i've used:

DVD Remake Pro 3.6.3
PGCEdit 8.6.0.1000
Subrip 1.50 Beta 4
Muxman 0.16.6 (demo)
Photoshop CS3
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I took care of a complete reauthoring in DVD Remake Pro. I deleted audiotracks, not-used subpicturetracks, trailers, warnings, filmstudio premovies and the additional special features. I just have 1 VTS left with the english menu's and the mainmovie. I restored/repaired all the connections (links, relations between components),commands, etc. The DVD works fine and starts with the root menu, but off course in really like to have some end/finishing touch advise about the dvd data after reauthoring in DVD Remake Pro. I will take care of this later!

Important and nice as well is to carry out the changes in the menu (background, button positions, button highlights). Not all can be done in DVD Remake Pro, i searched for information about this subject in the wellknown forums and guides.

I treated two menubackground in Photoshop CS3, the root menu and the language menu (language/subtitles). All the text without a goal has been deteled and all used textures have been repositioned. In DVD Remake Pro i fixed the button positions for the greatest part and also the buttoncommands. Take care off the buttonsizes for widescreen and pan/scan mode as well can't be done in DVD Remake Pro, and i used PGC Edit for it. I also look after the button highlights, especially if they fall in the size of the button, so you can see them

With SubRip i saved the subpictures of the two menu's as BMP files. I opened the subpicture bmp (overlay) and the associated menubackground in the same psd. There i changed the button highlights so they are perfectly matched again with the new menubackground (using the skill of transparancy makes it a lot easier ) I copied the layer of the new subpicture (overlay) and saved it as a BMP file (OS/2, 24 bits).

I opened them again in SubRip and saved them as .sst files (ANCI coded), which you need in Muxman. One thing in here was not right. When i opened the new subpicture (overlay) of the second menu (language menu), i missed 1 button highlight. However after the rip with SubRip i saw this highlight for sure. And of course i see it in my new subpicture bitmap file in Photoshop also.

In the next step i opened the new menubackgrounds as videos, and i added the new subpictures (overlays) as .stt files. This creates a vobmenu. I imported the dvd in DVD Remake Pro and the vobmenu created with Muxman as well. I used rightmouseclick on the original menu and chose for Replace Still with the vobmenu made with Muxman.
But after i exported and tested the dvd there wasn't a change and the whole process didnt work

Main problem: changing button highlights

Can somebody indicate me where the mistakes are made? What have i done wrong? Are there better and/or faster ways to do this? And is there somebody prepared to accompany me step for step trough the whole process?


My next question is about giving me some advice about the final dvd data of DVD Remake Pro after i reauthored in DVD Remake Pro.

For both things i can explain things with copy paste images. That will clear up the whole thing a little more i think.
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I hope that there are people on this forum, who do have the experience with similiar cases/processes, who do have the experience also with the programmes (especially DVD Remake Pro 3.6.3). And who can help me solve the problems i have described and give me some advice too about some things.


Thanks in advance for all your reactions!!

Cheers

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I need 2 posts more to add images

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And the last one needed

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I need another one, i hope i can add my images now

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Some images for the advise part of my message:

I really like to have some advice and information about the details of this commands, is this oke? how can i check if it is oke?

The debugger says it misses preferred menulanguage at start. How can i take care of this probleem?


Rootmenu pre/post commands:



Mainmenu pre/post commands:



PGC4-PGC5 pre/post commands:



DVD in debugger - playback history:



DVD in debugger - system registers:

[toaddub]

When you're extracting the menu background from DVDRMP, it is in 32-bit BMP. So when you're modifying in PS3, make sure you're saving it as OS/2 24-bit BMP.

As for extracting the subpics with Subrip, in the Cropping tab make sure the size constraints is 720x576; and in the Colors tab, choose Sonic Scenarist preset; 4-bits should be selected already. When you're modifying this subpic in PS3, using this as a layer on top of the menu background with partial transparency so as to help you align correctly, make sure you copy this subpic to a new window with 100% transparency, and save the file as OS/2 4-bits, not 24-bits. That's where the mistake is.

Now as you're ready to combine both the menu background and the subpic in MuxMan using SST file, follow this GUIDE on how to create a 16:9 menu. Use the SST file content provided. Include audio AC3, if any.

Now before relacing the MuxMan VOB file back in DRMP, first export the color scheme (available in Preview window) and the CLUT (available in CLUT pane). With the menu cell selected, use "Replace block", not "Replace with still", to replace the menu. Then reimport the color scheme and CLUT back in. Adjust button commands where appropriate.

Here's another similar post regarding completely replacing a menu: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f112/complete-newbie-looking-steer-237331/index2.html#post1991876

As for the pictures, I can't really see them that well. I'm not sure what it is you want me to find. If running through the trace and it's behaving as expected, then you're OK. You can also verify it with a software player after export.

You can manually define the preferred menu language in the Player Settings dialog that first appears when you run the debugger.

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Thanks for your reply toaddub, i will follow the instructions!

I saved the new menu backgrounds as os/2 24 bits BMP files.
Then i ripped the subpictures with SubRip (there was only 1 subpicture for the root menu and 1 subpicture for the language menu, not 2 like 1 for wide and 1 for pan/scan), so do i need to make 2 subpictures for each menu now?


...opened them in Photoshop CS3, adjust them to fit the new menu buttonpositions, and then....

Yes i tried to save them as a 4 bits bmp, this is only possible when you choose in picturemodus for indexed color (i have a dutch version of photoshop, im sorry when the words arent the same, but i think you know what i mean), i saved the colormode of the 4bits original subpicture, and applied that one in the new bmp. But the problem occurs when i want to save it as a 4bits BMP file, i have to press two times on OK in the same questionbox (very strange), then its saved, but i see only a red background without the highlights. Photoshop gives me an error :S. When i reopen the saved file, i get this:

http://i33.tinypic.com/2uj01n4.jpg

When i save to 8 bits there is no problem, what could that be?

Are the following questions important in Photoshop when you save your bmp files? --> Which colorprofile do you choose? Which pixel aspect ratio? Do you need to change other ratios?
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I also tried to open image sequence in SubRip to check the subrips i made and the new subrips i created. First i opened the original subpicture rips i made with SubRip, but i get the error 'scan line index out of range'. (strange)

And when i open the 8bit new subpicture, i get a small black screen with a few highlights, not the same subpicture like i saved in photoshop.

The example is here:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2ldwua0.jpg

I don't get this problems too. Whats your opinion?

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Hope you can help me again mate, i really try to understand all the details, and read a lot, but every situation is different (also mine)!

When this technical problems have been solved, i can go further

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For the images, didnt know how to implement them in this post, so rightmouseclick on the images, take the url and look there (maybe you have to click to enlarge).

For me it's about the pre and postcommands, if you suspect any strange R's or something else what has to be changed. I hope you can just have a look at it, and please me with 'It's all oke Segunda, final check in debugger and export '

Thanks in advance!

Cheers

Segunda

[toaddub]

Yes, make 2 subpics for each menu. The subpic extracted from Subrip is most likely one and is widescreen. Follow the referenced guide in doom9 to resize this subpic for Pan/Scan. Resize the image first (uncheck Constrain Proportions checkbox in Photoshop), then resize the canvas. Save the subpic as PS.BMP. You must choose OS/2 4-bit BMP.

The picture you showed indicates you're not extracting it correctly. The background should be 720x576 for PAL, 720x480 for NTSC. Read my previous post on how to use Subrip properly.

In PS, I have Indexed color profile and Square pixel aspect ratio. Don't convert to any color profile.

If you're still having trouble, zip the ALL the IFOs and the menu VOB (VTS_01_0.VOB) from the images you showed previously; include any modified menu backgrounds as well. Post a link to this zip file for download. This way I can tell if there's any commands that need to be changed due to your modified menu backgrounds.

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Thanx for your reply again toaddub!

All the things you say in your last message, aren't the problem.

Background and subpictures are in the right format. And i will make 2 subpics for each menu, but i first need to save one subpic as a 4 bit bmpfile in the right way. Photoshop gives me errors. I will try a reinstallation of photoshop first. And i also can't open the original subpicture rips in SubRip itself. Just to see if everything is correct! Thats very strange, i think.

Read my previous post again, you missed some detailed information i think.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers

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[toaddub]

Hopefully reinstallation of PS fixes the saving problem. Let me know how it turns out.

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STATUS: Photoshop CS 4 installed, fixes saving problems!

I will work further and try the things you described.

Soon a new status update!

Cheers

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Step E (Mux the menu pictures):
- You need as many SST files as you have subpictures for your menu (WS.SST, LB.SST and/or PS.SST).
- Choose the PAL or NTSC SST file template from above, but don't forget to set the correct subpicture name.
- Now load your background picture BG.BMP as video into MuxMan, use the modified background video or use your own 16:9 video file for the background of a motion menu.
- Save the MuxMan project as mxp file and change the Display Mode from "4:3" to "P/S and LB", "Only Panscan", or "Only Letterbox" with a text editor to the same as your original DVD (as you have noted in Step A), save it and reload the mxp file.
(see note #7)
- Load your demuxed audio track (optional).
- Load your first subpicture WS.SST and press (mark) the "wide" button. It gets stream ID 0x20 (w 20).
- Now choose subpicture number 2 on the MuxMan GUI and load the SST file for stream 0x21 (you have noted in Step A if it is letterbox or pan&scan) and press (mark) the related button.
- Do the same for stream 0x22 if you have a third subpic.
- The subpicture track 1 should have the correct stream IDs now (e.g. W 20 PS 21).
- By pressing the START button your modified menu will be muxed.

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I have two questions now, i just want to know for sure what i have to do

First one, is about the 'red marked text'. I don't have a full understanding of this one. Can you give me a good explanation at this point, from first to last step.

Second one is about an audiostream. In the original menu there is an audiostream, do i need to demux this stream and add it with the new subpictures, or will this audiostream not be replaced, when i replace the menu. So it will sustain and fit in the new menu without any trouble.

Thanks for your help again toaddub!

Cheers

Segunda

[toaddub]

1. The 'marked red text' asks you to choose the Display Mode, save the project file with .mxp extension, then reload the project file. But the saving and reloading step is no longer necessary if you use MuxMan v0.16.6. Once you load in the background, choose the appropriate Display Mode (in your case 16:9 Only PanScan) from the second drop-down list to the right of Pref.

2. If your original menu has an audio stream, you need to demux it as well. At the MuxMan stage, include this audio stream along with your modified background and both subpics.

Your MuxMan created VOB file will be VTS_01_1.VOB. Then continue on with the remaining steps in replacing the menu that I explained in my previous post above.

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