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DvdReMake 3.5 wont export good menues, even with no change

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: DvdReMake 3.5 wont export good menues, even with no change Reply with quote

hello, I new to the forum, and don't see much like what I have going wrong... forgive me if this has been covered. I seem to be able to isolate sections and export (as in DVD shrink) but sometimes DVD rebuild /cce errors on this. menus don't seem to work under any circumstances. if I get one at all, it is not functional. often the menu will speed by in 1 second and every other animation or video in the menu play -just not the screen that have functions. also, in DVD shrink I can eliminate areas as afore mentioned however in DVD remake 3.5 when I do this I still get all the empty vob's vs. just one or two as in DVD shrink. is it possible to delete vs.. hide? is this a feature of pro? I would be happy to upgrade if it would help, at this point I'm considering Menu Edit however this seems to add another step and defeat the point of DVD remake. attached is a short dvd with video hidden and menu converted to still. any help appreciated. Reese


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attached is a short dvd with video hidden and menu converted to still.

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NAVPack Extracted with video hidden and menu untouched

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum, reese! What software player do you use to play? I don't have a problem playing with the files you exported with DRM 3.5. Or you have a problem with the standalones? The menus (main menu and chapter menu) display fine. So is its navigation. They are just still menus - still time is infinite, also by looking in the navpack. I don't get what you're saying, please clarify. Which menu?
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menus don't seem to work under any circumstances. if I get one at all, it is not functional. often the menu will speed by in 1 second and every other animation or video in the menu play -just not the screen that have functions.
What do mean you get all the empty vobs? After exporting from DRM 3.5? Which vobs are empty? btw, please don't post the same problem in both forums. It's against forum rules. I have modified your post to add in the Navpack attachment.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: WinDVD 7 causing most of my problems Reply with quote

sorry bout the confusion, its been/is crazy here. 1st I didn't prepare the files correctly, then when I did Navpack correctly, they were to big to attach, then I lost all my carefully collected notes in a restore attempt... I have determined that the bulk of my problems were WinDVD 7. it seems it wont let the menus function until a disc is actually burned. it wont let me see the menus correctly with the exported vobs. I am downloading power PowerDVD 7. Comments or suggestions here appreciated, It seems I must have a vob player that works considering how long DVD Rebuilder/CCE takes.. several discs did fail to work correctly/at all, but it wasn't until I fell back to vob blanker, that I noticed win DVD 7 failed to correctly display the menus on the exported files as well. the discs burned fine. jumping back to DVD remake 3.5 there were still a few problems, and they are difficult to troubleshoot with out an accurate preview. regarding the multiple vobs I mentioned: I use DVD shrink to say cut out extras on a disc, then burn the main title. I can then reinsert the extras, reauthorize\only the extras out to vobs (and kill the huge original vob files) and save them to reinsert in another compilation say one with another small extras from another disc. (the extras on led zeppelin disc 1 and 2 fit nicely on a 3rd disc full of extras..) anyway, in DVD shrink when I export (isolate) the extras for later/immediate use -even if the extras were vob #17 DVD Shrink gives me vob #01- whatever usually vob 1-2 or 3. I am often inserting vobs into Liquid 7, I has been indicated to use DVD Lab to Demux the vobs into 1 single .m2v file for complete compliance -the ac3 filter fails on occasion and I have noticed Im2 DVD Ripper for example.. makes fuzzy soft avi's even noticeable in liquids small preview compared to importing a vob directly or the DVD lab approach. so, when DVD shrink gives me a vob 1-2 say s DVD remake give me all 1-48 vobs (yes 48 is the average on some of these discs) I have a while or lot of files to import into DVD Lab for conversion. I t may be that it is always vob#1 and I can ignore the rest I haven't looked far enough ahead on that one, but deleting the vobs I don't need if I don't need a menu at all seemed to be what I wanted DVD Remake to do to emulate my previous workflow.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that WinDVD 7 is the culprit? Try another player before concluding that. DvdReMake can cut out extras, or portions of extras. Don't need DVD Shrink for that. If you intend to reauthor the whole thing, then DVD Shrink is fine but you would lose the menus. I don't get why you need to use Liquid 7 (which I'm not familiar) or DVD Lab for conversion, and then import the converted vobs into DvdReMake. What's the purpose in these steps? I still don't follow your logic. What exactly are you trying to do? What DvdReMake problem are you having?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that WinDVD 7 is the culprit? Try another player before concluding that. DvdReMake can cut out extras, or portions of extras. Don't need DVD Shrink for that. If you intend to reauthor the whole thing, then DVD Shrink is fine but you would lose the menus. I don't get why you need to use Liquid 7 (which I'm not familiar) or DVD Lab for conversion, and then import the converted vobs into DvdReMake. What's the purpose in these steps? I still don't follow your logic. What exactly are you trying to do? What DvdReMake problem are you having?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: now Power DVD7 Fails to let me push buttons until a disc.. Reply with quote

menus seem to behave as expected now. but still no accurate previews... Power DVD Deluxe 7 seems to behave the same way. I can see menus, but buttons are not functional unless an actual DVD is inserted in the tray. I'm not sue if this is supposed to be the case. Do I have to mount an image to a virtual drive? with what? alcohol only seems to create virtual drives for already existing DVD trays/drives. are the test supposed to work fully as the export full option is supposed to? regarding liquid, I generally decrypt>remake/vo blank>rebuild/cce. often this creates a movie that's 70-80% compressed (20-30%). sometimes I want portions at no compression or want to do heavy editing (to compile videos/segments from an un chaptered DVD) in Avid Liquid 7. to accomplish this with absolutely no loss I need a conversion as vobs don't always import well especially with Dolby digital audio. liquid is separate from the general work flow, but when using it DVD shrink gives us 1 vob to select in the import into DVD Lab dialogue vs.. several that DVD remake seems to generate (as I recall, fuzzy...) in DVD Lab import dialogue when using DVD shrink we not only get 1 vob, sure enough if we forget and select multiple vobs DVD Lab errors and indicates this is not necessary -"only import the 1st vob" it says. also I get an open gop error, this does not happen from DVD shrink -liquid recommends using open gop as DVD remake seems to do "because image quality from frame to frame maintains similar level" I assume this is better, and the error is more informative than problematic. I would like to have the option to adjust the gop as in liquid.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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menus seem to behave as expected now. but still no accurate previews...
What do you mean by no accurate previews? Is this a still or motion menu? If it is motion, you can press Play in the Preview window to see the whole thing.
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Power DVD Deluxe 7 seems to behave the same way. I can see menus, but buttons are not functional unless an actual DVD is inserted in the tray.
Not functional - as in what? Cannot select the button because of no button highlight? Or button navigation is not working as expected? You don't have to mount to play from PowerDVD. It should be able to play from DVD folder. Test export works fully, with the exception that clips will be cut at X secs. Check the Options menu.
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liquid is separate from the general work flow, but when using it DVD shrink gives us 1 vob to select in the import into DVD Lab dialogue vs.. several that DVD remake seems to generate (as I recall, fuzzy...)
DvdReMake export files whatever you have modified in it. If you didn't modify, it exports as is. Same thing for DVDShrink (I'm not referring to compression part). If DVD Lab tells you to import only the first VOB, then do so.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Buttons Never Work In Win Dvd/PowerDVD Reply with quote

menu seem perfect with motion. I cannot get the buttons to activate/work/appear at all. a menu will even scroll to another/all screens but the buttons/highlights only appear/work on the disc as far as Win DVD/PowerDVD are concerned until a disk is in the tray.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this playing from DvdReMake files or Shrink's? It's strange that WinDVD/PowerDVD only highlights buttons when playing from disc. Are you doing any processing in DvdReMake?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: mount the folder as a virtual drive? Reply with quote

I'm not really using DVD shrink I hate it, except that its fast. win/power DVD will NOT highlight the buttons. EVERYTHING seems to work correctly on the final burn. to test, I am forced to cut the main title to get a short burn. it would seem that there was a setting in the player to allow menus to actually function from a hard drive folder, but there doesn't seem to be much in either program to adjust - it apparently it should just work? can someone enlighten me as to how to mount the folder as a virtual drive, as an actual DVD in the drive seems to be my computers requirement for the software player to fully function
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the DOS command SUBST to create a virtual drive. For help: type "subst /?" You must have the DVD files in VIDEO_TS folder if you want WinDVD to play. Mount it from the parent folder, not VIDEO_TS folder. e.g. Say your DVD files are in D:\MOVIE\VIDEO_TS. To create a virtual drive, say Z D:\>subst z: movie To delete or dismount the virtual drive: D:\>subst z: /d
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: no luck with doss but Video _ts creation FIXED the issues! Reply with quote

I put the test files and the final export files inside video_ts folders, drag and dropped the parent folder and win DVD worked as expected. I probably never would have thought of that. bless you! is there a way to get this to be the default behavior in DVD Remake? am I doing something wrong?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so. Not everyone wants to have the files in VIDEO_TS folder, since they might still have something else to do or they don't use WinDVD to test. Manually creating the folder shouldn't be a problem.
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