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hodtool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Merge Titles and Add Chapters Reply with quote
I'm trying to decide whether to purchase DvdReMake Pro. I need to know if it's possible to do the following: I have a DVD9 movie that I split on to two DVD5s with DVD Shrik. I just kept the main movie - there are no menus. All I want to do is this. 1. Merge the title on Disc 1 with the title on Disc 2 like it was originally. 2. Hopefully the original chapter breaks can be maintained, if not, I'd like to add chapter breaks at set intervals, like every five minutes. That's it. Can DvdReMake Pro do that and can it do it easily? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hello hodtool, Welcome to the forums Smile Yes DVD Remake Pro can definitely handle this task fairly easily. You can download a demo version here: http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/download.php You can't export your remade disc with the demo, but you can check out the program's capabilities. Feel free to come back to the forum if you have any questions.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK. Three more questions. 1. If I can't export the result using the trial version, then I can't really test it. If I purchase the product, test it, but can't get the DVD to work, can I get my money back? 2. Chapters. Are they retained from the original titles or do I have to redo them? 3. Are there any user's guides describing how to merge the titles and deal with the chapters? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hodtool wrote:
1. If I can't export the result using the trial version, then I can't really test it. If I purchase the product, test it, but can't get the DVD to work, can I get my money back?
The demo lets you explore the capabilities of the program and make sure that it runs on your computer. I have done thousands of projects with DVD Remake Pro and I can tell you that the exports work great. If the program did not perform as promised, then there would be many complaints on these forums, but there are not. When problems do arise, they are quickly fixed. As for getting your money back; I don't think that you can, but that's not up to me.
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2. Chapters. Are they retained from the original titles or do I have to redo them?
Yes, you can retain the chapters.
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3. Are there any user's guides describing how to merge the titles and deal with the chapters?
Yes: http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/ht_merge1.php. Additionally, the program has an automatic merge feature, but it is intended to merge two different titles that will be selected from a menu and not merge a previously split title, as the guide mentioned above explains.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
We can sign under everything rubicut has said here Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I looked at the guide that you posted the link for and found a problem. Here's the text.
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To recreate original PGC1 on merged disk we have to append all the programs from disk2/VTS1/PGC1 to disk1/VTS1/PGC1.
Well, that's exactly what I want to do, but then there's this...
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It is possible, but it is a "labor intensive" way. At the moment DvdReMake Pro does not merge PGCs and we would have to manually add needed amount of programs and then "populate" them with blocks from disk2/VTS1/PGC1 using "replace block" action on each program. Note: "Append copied PGC" action is available now in DvdReMake Pro. By appending programs instead of putting them into separate PGC you avoid listed below limitations and simplify the task: there is no need for next step ("Correct playback") since appended programs will be played automatically.
Now I'm a little confused. Can I use this "Append" feature instead? Are there any instructions for using this feature?
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Actually it is not that bad, but lets be lazy (i.e. smart). What we can do easily in DvdReMake is to copy/paste PGC between disks, so lets use this. Idea is to have second part of the movie in separate PGC, and change navigation in such a way that this new PGC will be played after PGC1. Of course this method has some drawbacks: some players may have a slight pause going from first part (PGC1) to the second part; fast forward/backward and next/previous chapter operations will not work across different program chains.
I don't want the slight pause, and I don't want separate titles. If I didn't mind that, I'd just use DVD Shrink to create the DVD. Why can't I do what I need to using the Merge DVDs feature described in this guide? http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/ht_merge_full.php Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This guide was written before DVD Remake had the "Append copied PGC" function. You can now append the PGC from the second disc to the first and there should not be a pause. I admit that this is a little confusing in the guide.
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Why can't I do what I need to using the Merge DVDs feature described in this guide? http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/ht_merge_full.php
This describes DVD Remake's built-in merge feature. The purpose of this feature is to merge two different discs into one, retaining menus. It creates a title menu, that displays when the disc is inserted, which allows you to select which title to play. A nice feature, but it is not exactly what you are trying to do.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, taking into account the things that I said I needed earlier, will the "Append" feature meet my needs? How does the Append feature deal with chapters? Is there any documentation on the Append feature?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Definitely. It retains the chapters with the copied PGC. You also need to add chapter for each program in the Titles domain. e.g. Project 1 - DVD1 - VTS 1, PGC 1 (movie) has 5 chapters. Project 2 - DVD2 - VTS 1, PGC 1 (movie) has 5 chapters. 1. On Project 2, RC on PGC 1 and select "Copy PGC". 2. On Project 1, RC on Program Chains and select "Add copied PGCs". 3. On Project 1, Titles, just Add chapters for each program on newly appended PGC 2. You should have a total of 10 chapters.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
toaddub wrote:
1. On Project 2, RC on PGC 1 and select "Copy PGC". 2. On Project 1, RC on Program Chains and select "Add copied PGCs". 3. On Project 1, Titles, just Add chapters for each program on newly appended PGC 2. You should have a total of 10 chapters.
We were discussing using "Append copied PGC" to append the chain from the second disc to the end of the chain from the first disc (not adding another PGC). This way there should not be a pause, and playback will not need to be adjusted. After appending the second disc's chain to the first disc's chain, all you have to do is go to the title map, and add the appended chapters. This can be done in one step by selecting all of the new programs (chapters) at once.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doh (Homer reaction - the Simpsons - for those who watch it). RC on the wrong place. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks a lot for answering all my questions. DvdReMake Pro sounds like it's the way to go. I will go home tonight, buy the software, and give it a shot. Since there's no documentation on this Append feature, can you briefly just give me step by step instructions of appending PGC 2 to PGC 1 and then fixing up the chapters? To give you an example, here's what I've got: The original movie, Revenge of HodTool, was a DVD9. I used DVD Shrink to basically just remove the menus and secondary audio (I could have used something else to do this I suppose....) so all I was left with was a main movie and its Dolby Digitial soundtrack. Since what was left was about 5.5 GB, I put the first 4.7 GB on Disc 1 and the remaining .8 GB on Disc 2. So, I need to reattach the .8 GB to the first 4.7 GB and then make sure the chapters work. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hodtool wrote:
So, I need to reattach the .8 GB to the first 4.7 GB and then make sure the chapters work.
So you're planning to burn the merged dvd onto a DVD9? Or shrink it and put on DVD5? Since there's 5.5GB, shrinking it to 4.7GB is not that bad, the quality is still pretty good. Then there's no need to split in the first place if you still have the source. Since you want to use the Append feature, here's how:

For example, Project 1 - DVD1 - VTS 1, PGC 1 (movie) has 15 chapters. Project 2 - DVD2 - VTS 1, PGC 1 (movie) has 5 chapters.

1. On Project 2, RC on PGC 1 and select "Copy PGC".
2. On Project 1, RC on PGC 1 and select "Append copied PGCs". You'll see the appended programs in the Program block.
3. On Project 1, Titles, Title 1, just select Add chapters for each newly appended program, which should be automatically highlighted, and hit OK.
4. On the first appended program, if you see the Seamless column is No, then change it to Yes by double-click on the program, and check the Seamless playback box.

That should be it.

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hodtool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow! That sounds easy. I'm looking forward to trying it out. Thanks again for your help. I've been pulling my hair out messing with VOB Merge, VOBEDit, IFOEdit, etc. Nothing but frustration and a few coasters. (Lately I've been doing my test burns to DVD+RW because of it...)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
toaddub wrote:
3. On Project 1, Titles, Title 1, just select Add chapters for each newly appended program, which should be automatically highlighted, and hit OK.
No need to add chapters one by one. It is possible to select multiple programs using CTRL and SHIFT - all selected programs will be added as chapters.
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