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Can you move a Button & its Highlight?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Can you move a Button & its Highlight? Reply with quote

Hi.

I'm working on making a new Main Menu screen for a documentary on Steve McQueen. I followed the Customize Menu Background guide at DvDRemake's homepage.

My problem is that I don't know how to move the position on the screen of the button and its highlight further down on the screen.

I changed the values within the button after pressing "Edit button..." but all that did was change the location of the button vertically on the screen and I could alter the size of the area that becomes "hot".

The highlight pointing to the menu item totally disappeared when I moved the area lower down on the screen and I could not move the button location laterally or side-to-side on the screen.

It seems that I am confined to that one vertical stripe of the screen where the original button location started out at. I don't see any way to give a button new coordinates of the screen to become the new button location.

The original screen looks like this:


My goal is this as the Opening Screen:


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Pressing on "Main Menu" (above) is to open this screen (below), where you can "Play" or select a "Scene" to play. The link does work and opens this secondary screen, it just loses the highlight if I alter the button coordinates further down in the prior Opening Screen:


This is just to show you the screen when I hit "Edit button...":
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the sticky List of Useful Topics for detailed info. Basically you need to modify the subpicture highlight since you move the arrow highlight position.

Don't know if you notice, when you're editing button positions, you have the All modes tab selected. The reason that the up and down positions are shown are that both the wide and pan/scan positions are the same. If they are different, it won't be shown. So go to each Wide and Pan/Scan tabs and modify the horizontal positions. However, DRMP only shows the changes to the Wide mode in the Preview window, not the Pan/Scan mode. This is either a bug or the feature is not implemented. For now, use PgcEdit to edit button positions for each mode if necessary.

If you reauthor the menu with some authoring menu software, it will handle both wide and pan/scan button positions for you if you indicate that the menu is 16:9. In this case, use of PgcEdit is unnecessary.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, toaddub. As always, your help is invaluable. I'll do as you say to check the "Sticky" messages for help in this area about button modification. I also want to thank you for your help and description in your reply above.

Tell me, is PgcEdit as graphical and easy to understand as DvdRemake Pro is now (at least for me)? I feel I've really come a long way from the beginning when I was just learning DRMP. Before getting to know DRMP as I do nowadays, it seemed hard to understand, but now I get a lot of it and much of it comes as second nature to me. Is PgcEdit hard or easy to understand and get around in?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Download PgcEdit and see how it is to you. At first glance, PgcEdit may be overwhelming due to its abundant features. Personally, I like DRMP's interface and organization but I still use some of PgcEdit's useful features and macros that are not available in DRMP. Both DRMP and PgcEdit has its pros and cons. You will soon know the difference once you use both of them.

Let me know if you get stuck in menu editing. Specify which approach you use and which thread or guide as a reference.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toaddub wrote:
Personally, I like DRMP's interface and organization

Me too. I really like the graphical interface of DRMP. It's really easy to understand how everything is layed out in the DVD.

toaddub wrote:
Let me know if you get stuck in menu editing. Specify which approach you use and which thread or guide as a reference.

I will. Thanks, toaddub.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just download the latest version of PgcEdit (8.6) and I couldn't make head or tail out of where to even begin to look for the buttons to modify. It isn't at all graphical and lays the items out before you so you can tailor them as you wish, like in DRMP. It's all text and I just don't really see how to find what it is I may want to alter in all that text gobbledygook. Is it just me? Do you have an alternative to PgcEdit that's easier and more graphical to use to do this task I want to do, i.e. the buttons and highlight editing? How difficult is it to do in DRMP?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To access the menu via PgcEdit, select the menu PGC on the left window where there are buttons indication, e.g. VTSM 1, LU 1 (en), 5 (1:15) 14b. <== this is equivalent to VTS 1/Menus en/PGC 5/14 buttons in the menu in DRMP. Click on the MENU icon in the toolbar, right-click to access the context menu and select Menu buttons, or press Ctrl+M. The Menu buttons dialog appears, click on Edit button. Menu Editor dialog appears. Select radio button Group 1 (wide) and modify the 4 coordinates. You'll see the button rectangle in the Menu buttons dialog is changed as you change the coordinate. Do the same for the Group 2 (pan/scan). Click OK, Close, and Save DVD.

Use of PgcEdit is only after you have modified the button highlight and reauthor it. This is assuming you're using the Subrip/MuxMan approach to reauthor the menu. If you're using a commercial or freeware authoring software that supports 16:9 menu, then use of PgcEdit is unnecessary.

In the sticky List of Useful Topics, be sure to read the Menu components explained section and the Guide on How to replace menu with your own using SubRip, MuxMan, DvdRMake Pro and graphic editor, which is only for 4:3 menu editing but the concept is the same.

This thread pertains to 16:9 menu editing: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=708394#post708394.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've given me a better start as to how to tackle this. I'll have to read the threads you pointed out here to get a better handle on this. It's such a darned shame that DRMP didn't just add button editing in a more robust way as a feature. Maybe eventually and hopefully they will in a later version. Thanks, toaddub.
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