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eo2vdq
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: (resolved) Menu Problems Reply with quote
"if you are keeping the main menu then you could try editing the Play button to jump directly to the Movie title/chapter 1 instead" MackemX, I am also new to the DVD authoring business and have to ask how do you edit the buttons to go to a different chapter or title? I ask as I was having a problem after I removed a menu animation and the 'Main menu' buttons from other menus would not work then. I got around it but just leaving the animation in, but that isn't the approach I always want to take. Thanks, MikeF
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi and welcome to the forums eo2vdq Smile what exactly do you mean by removing the menu animation? Is this the transistion between menu's (something like StarWars/Back To The Future) or an actual menu? could you not access the Main Menu once you had chosen a sub menu?. I can't really work out why it wouldn't work but give me an example of how you navigate to the menu and then it would fail do you go via the main menu? what happens when you select the sub menu, does any video play 1st and then the menu appears? etc also which version of DRM are you using?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Knowing the version number would really help us in troubleshooting this eo2vdq. Different versions of DRm have different issues but 2.3.4 is working well with all tested dvds i have.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Missing Info Reply with quote
Sorry, I was a bit skimpy on details wasn't I? I am using V2.3.4. The movie was Gosford Park (Hey, my wife likes it!) Embarassed By animated menus, what I mean is that when the movie first starts, there is a transition scene/movie clip of about 17 MB before the main menu appears. At the main menu there are four buttons I think (I'm at work right now, so not sure). Selecting a button (Specials for example), starts another transition scene before the next menu appears. What I did was remove the initial transition scene and the other transition scenes. After that, I could go from the main menu to the others without a problem, but when I tried to go to the main menu from another menu, the video would freeze and the FFwd/Rewind buttons would rapidly flash on the computer DVDplayer (PowerDVD I believe). The Main Menu button on the Specials menu had a value something like R[8]= 12260 trailend (or something like that). I guess my question should be more of how can I figure out what value the button should have to work correctly? FWIW, I find the menu screens odd. There are the transistion scenes, the menu screens, and there are also blacked out screens with outlines of the buttons, but they're value appears to be NOP. Thanks again, MikeF
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Missing Info Reply with quote
eo2vdq wrote:
What I did was remove the initial transition scene and the other transition scenes. The Main Menu button on the Specials menu had a value something like R[8]= 12260 trailend (or something like that). I guess my question should be more of how can I figure out what value the button should have to work correctly? Thanks again, MikeF
You should be able to hide the transition in between menu's without a problem, as this is a straight up video fragment. Worked for me perfectly on Star Wars Return of the Jedi. Make sure you hide it cell by cell, instead of an entire block, and only hide the cells needed. (next to the preview window) This will make sure navigation stays intact. As for the command, we'll need the precise command. Can't find that command in the list. Most main menu command will link directly to a PGC after setting a value.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
so it is like Star Wars etc where every menu change gets a menu transition video Smile the flashing FF/RW buttons looks like it's looping the now removed transition probably due to the values. I don't recommend using PowerDVD as a playback tester but rather a backup tester or just something to watch your DVD's on your PC with Wink. Get hold of Mark's Tray DVD player (do a search for Mark on this site) as that might help you analyse what is going on when you are removing stuff play the original DVD and then play the modified version and compare the two log files and it might show you where the problem lies do you have the option to skip the removed content selected in the options of DRM? you could change the menu command to call the title menu of that VTS but again you would have to check playback and values using Mark's player etc when the transition is playing from the sub menu back to the main menu is it definitely the same as what plays at the beginning?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Missing Info Reply with quote
eo2vdq wrote:
FWIW, I find the menu screens odd. There are the transistion scenes, the menu screens, and there are also blacked out screens with outlines of the buttons, but they're value appears to be NOP. Thanks again, MikeF
Are you sure the black screens aren't animations. Did you try sliding the bar below the preview to the right. Normally you only see the first frame, which might be black.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
First, let me apologise to GarridSG for hijacking this thread. But I think that I can end my ramblings tonight. I re-ripped it and edited it and now it works fine, but I swear I didn't change any settings. Must be operator error Shocked
Mirx wrote:
Are you sure the black screens aren't animations. Did you try sliding the bar below the preview to the right. Normally you only see the first frame, which might be black.
I'm sure. The sliding bar does move, but the screen remains the same.
Mirx wrote:
You should be able to hide the transition in between menu's without a problem, as this is a straight up video fragment. Worked for me perfectly on Star Wars Return of the Jedi.
It normally works for me too, but didn't this time.
Mirx wrote:
Make sure you hide it cell by cell, instead of an entire block, and only hide the cells needed. (next to the preview window).
How do I do that? I have read various guides and they are great, but do not recall seeing how to do this. If you know where, please point me in the right direction.
Mirx wrote:
As for the command, we'll need the precise command. Can't find that command in the list. Most main menu command will link directly to a PGC after setting a value.
My memory is good but very short. The command is actually R[8]=12288, LinkTail PGC.
MackemX wrote:
I don't recommend using PowerDVD as a playback tester but rather a backup tester or just something to watch your DVD's on your PC with . Get hold of Mark's Tray DVD player
My mistake, I actually use WinDVD. I installed Mark's Tray DVD Player but so far it has crashed everytime I have tried to use it. I'll have to look into that one more.
MackemX wrote:
do you have the option to skip the removed content selected in the options of DRM?
Yes.
MackemX wrote:
when the transition is playing from the sub menu back to the main menu is it definitely the same as what plays at the beginning?
No. I found out that the initial movie clip before the main menu only shows up if the movie is played on the computer, either from the disc or from the ripped files. In the stand alone DVD player, it does not appear. However, now it appears to work well anyway. Thank you for all your help guys. I think that one of the things I need is a complete users manual for the program. The guides you and others have written are great and extremely helpful, but they are like bits of a puzzle and I don't see the complete picture yet. As a bad analogy, it is like reading guides by different people on how to drive a car. One guide details how to change gears, one how to start the car, one how to park, etc, but nothing that ties it all togethor explaining first some of the concepts and the bigger picture. I have read some of the DVD file structure background, but maybe because it is from different people who are approaching it from different aspects, I haven't been able to have it all make sense yet within DRM. Hopefully soon. Thanks again, MikeF
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
lol, so it was a bad rip Smile topic has been split from the other also so GarridSG can get his help also Wink
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