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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: menu troubles Reply with quote

hi just recently purchased DVDremake pro 2.3.4, great piece of software. anyways, i am having a ton a trouble "hiding" the extras for the movie Hellboy. when ever i hide any of the extras, i cannot access the menus. first of all the movie now skips over the warnings and producer label and starts to directly play the movie title even though i didn't hide those (sounds like a first play issue). and if you try to access the any of the menus the movie stops playing but the timer keeps moving forward. i have even tried not messing with the warnings etc and just removed some of the extras in case those warnings also contained stuff that was needed to navigate the DVD correctly, but still the same result. i have even tried moving the post commands to the precommands of the stuff i have hidden and still the same result. the only thing i can think of now is that their is a preview that runs right after the warning screens and that somehow that is needed to navigate correctly. can someone please help me? i am a newbie at this, but i do have a fairly decent amount of knowledge on the matter...... just enough to be dangerous, but not enough to fix my problem lol thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: menu troubles Reply with quote

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i have even tried moving the post commands to the precommands of the stuff i have hidden and still the same result.
That's exactly one of the things DVDRemake does for you when it hide a block. So no need to do it manually. As for the hiding, open the block you want to hide, and the only select hiding the cells you need. You might be hiding an entire block, when the second or third cell is needed. I do have a copy of Hellboy lying around, but that was stripped by replica, but it still got the trailers and director's commentory in. What exactly are you trying to rip, if my version stll has them, and then I can try to simulate.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: menu troubles Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for you help mirx, first of all yeah i kind of figured that DVDremake would do that automatically but I basically was in troubleshooting mode and was trying to eliminate all possible problems. second, i should have included a better description of what exactly i am trying to do. so here it goes. i rip the entire dvd to my hd using DVDdecrypter. then import it using DVDremake. from here i would like to remove everything but the main movie and the amination/comic about Hellboy that happens to be all classified under the menu catagory of vts_03 (i think vts_03). so i have gone and hidden the entire vts group and also tried doing it cell by cell with the same results as with just hiding the pgc of that titleset and not touching anything else. those results being that i cannot access any menu at all, and it starts off right away at the begining of the title that has the movie which is what i want but i also want to be able to use the menus which you need to access that animation. i appoligize in advance for this being a little confusing, but i am trying to get this out to you guys before you leave the forum now.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi MackemX, i already unselected the auto bypass option, because it seemed like that could have been the problem ( i know real scientific)...... lol yeah i was going to start doing it one at a time, but i was hoping to save my sanity along with my hd alot of strain. i was thinking that i must be hiding something that is not explictly stated as something that would affect the menus. or that because i am hiding the fbi warnings and preview that i also inadvertantly hid one of the transition cells that tells the dvd player where to go next. but that really doesn't make sense cuz when it starts up it goes directly to the titleset containing the main movie. so that means i must be doing something that tells the DVD player to go directly to the main movie titleset. also, the dvd doesn't work the first time i put it in the dvd player. but once the dvd player rejects it and stops, if i hit play again thats when it goes directly to the main movie titleset, so that must be a first play problem?? ( i think ) i apprieciate any thoughts anyone has, whether or not you think it might help it may just tip me off on what is wrong anyway, so don't be shy. also i appoligize if i am not quite using the terminaligy correctly but its from what i just picked up and i haven't run across the formal definitions yet (which i am sure isn't helping) thanks again
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks MackemX, yeah unfortunatly i am at work and can't try this stuff out right away but i certainly will tonight. also, i did hear about marks dvd tray and how it shows you a lot more about what is going on with the DVD playback, so i will check that out and hopefully trace through all the commands executed and see what needs to be left in. is it possible that those warnings and movie studio stuff to have stuff in it that needs to be present, in order for the dvd to be played back properly???? or am i just grasping at straws. actually i can answer my own question, no because i have left those in and only removed some of the aminations shorts, with the same result. which makes me ask the question of what could possibly be contained in those parts of the dvd that would directly affect the main movie segment's menu???? that is where i could use your knowledge about pgc's and the post and pre commands associated with them. it really doesn't make sense ( to me at least ) of why you would need all ( or some ) of the extras to be keep intact in order for the dvd to play back properly. what could possibly be going on there. roughly, i mean real rough, to me the dvd should play those warning splash screens, then at the end of that recieve a command to go to the main menu from here it will send you to the appropriate titleset depending on what you select. so i could see how one might have trouble getting back to the menu from a titleset if there were selective cells hidden with in that titleset and one of those cells contained the post ( or pre ) commands to go back to the menu, but to have the all the menus be completely unaccessable is crazy. anyway i be back to trial and error tonight, hopefully with some discovery that i missed something extremely important and that once i relieze that everything will be ok ( alright i am an optimist )
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol also now i know what the test export funtionallity is about, but not fully. i am guessing it is a way to check all the links, and commands with out having tons of video sandwiched between all that stuff, so you can see if dvd is setup properly regardless of what the video footage is between it. correct????? thanks again MackemX
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey mackemX, i don't know if you saw my post above my one about test exporting, but i was wondering what you though about the following. excerps from one of my posts, which makes me ask the question of what could possibly be contained in those parts of the dvd that would directly affect the main movie segment's menu???? that is where i could use your knowledge about pgc's and the post and pre commands associated with them. it really doesn't make sense ( to me at least ) of why you would need all ( or some ) of the extras to be keep intact in order for the dvd to play back properly. what could possibly be going on there. roughly, i mean real rough, to me the dvd should play those warning splash screens, then at the end of that recieve a command to go to the main menu from here it will send you to the appropriate titleset depending on what you select. so i could see how one might have trouble getting back to the menu from a titleset if there were selective cells hidden with in that titleset and one of those cells contained the post ( or pre ) commands to go back to the menu, but to have the all the menus be completely unaccessable is crazy. i just am a little skeptical how ( or why ), there would be anything contained else where other than in the main movie titleset ( assuming the menu is under that titleset as well, like in my case ) that would cause everything not to work except the play back of a single titleset ( all be it, the main one ). i would think that removing all the extras would just led to a bunch of "dead" buttons on the menu.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oppps sorry....i must not have given you enough time to respond. ok well i will be experimenting a lot tonight and hopefully will be able to figure out what is going on before daylight thanks for all your help, PS. i would apprieciate if you continued to keep an eye on this thread tonight and the near future because i am sure i will have a few more questions for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol hey i know this might sound stupid but i downloaded marks dvd tray player and it doesn't show the video but you can hear the sound. do i have to load some type of plug-in/codec for it to work
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no combination of intermediate filters could be found to make the connection can't render one or more streams. number of streams that could not be rendered: 1 the stream-type(s) that could not be rendered: SubPic no line 21 decoder found the video decoder can't be shown as Closed-Captioning due to a problem with graphic building or you don't have a line 21 decoder installed any ideas?
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