Convert Motion Menu to Still Menu

[Sophia]

Will there ever be a feature to change a motion block to a still frame? The reason I ask is im trying to convert motion menus to still menus. I tried the 'Cut From Here' command right at the begining and it worked sort of. Whats left is about 8 or so frames. Then I change it from '0 Sec' to 'Infinity' Then I modify or remove any cell commands that would cause it to repeat ie LinkTopCell. This all works great except for a couple things. 1. If the the menu had audio, it plays the audio for that short amount of time. Though not a problem if I plan to send it to DVD Shrink, I can just remove the audio from that menu. 2. The menu will playback for those 8 or so frames and stop. Which is sometimes ok if the original menu didnt have too much motion you wont notice. This of course, in an all out effort to maximize DVD realestate for the main flick.

[Sophia]

Whew..! I been around the world and back. Well first I stumbled upon this rather easily by just browsing this forum http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=479 I dont have an authoring program so then I thought I could do the same thing as others do with the "Insert Disc 2" setup. So then I dug this up [strike]http://asdfz.com/guide/3/[/strike] EDIT http://www.posunplugged.com/free_frame.html Click on "How-to" guides EDIT So what I tried to do was: 1. Export the frame I wanted in DvdReMake 2. Fixed it up in PhotoShop since VirtualDUB didnt like the format DRM spit out. 3. Converted it to an AVI with the guide above 4. Authored it ReJig (IfoEdit) 5. Exported the buttons in DvdReMake 6. "Replaced" the block with the recently authored VOB --- This causes the buttons to disappear (naturally I guess since the authored VOB has no buttons) 7. Import the recently exported buttons. CRASH..! Oh well, seemed like the right thing to do in theory. [crosses finger] Guess I'll just wait for the feature to be added into DvdReMake [/crosses finger] Editted to add I am currently using v1.4.2

[SirQUK]

wow, thats a great attempt Sophia! I would say around the world and back is an understatement i think u shouldnt give up just yet as dimad as stated theres been the odd problem with importingbuttons crashing his prog! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Moved to Suggestions forum as this is a feature request:) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- OK while we are at it, that second site has inspired me..Who wants to be the first to create a " removed with DRM" frame for general use in DvDReMake?

[DimadSoft]

Looks like approach is right. You do create subpicture stream (highlights) when you author new menu, right? Try 1.4.3. the was a problem with 1.4.2

[Rimmer]

Sorted it What I wanted to do was actually edit the background graphic similar to what Sophia posted in her 2nd URL link. Managed it and was very easy, well for me anyway cause of software I use at work. MS Paint Photoshop 6 Sonic ReelDVD 3 DVDRM Maybe anyone else wants to know. 1)Opened still from DVDRM in paint. 2)Select all>copy 3)Open PS6 edit paste. 4)Modified still to remove background text I didn't want (Trailers, audio, special features) 5)Recreated text with just the 3 lines insted of 6. 6)Create new layer for subpic and add filled rectangles and circles. 7)Open ReelDVD>Import modified bmp as still menu then add subpic.psd over top. 8)Change subpic attributes for view, select, active. 9)Export project which creates my vob i need to use to replace original in DVDRM. 10)Open DVDRM select Menus EN and specific menu I need to replace. 11)Replace block and load my new created vob and change button (NOP) attributes. Export DVD and hey voila my backup with unwanted parts, buttons and also my edited background graphic that now compliments the modified DVD created by DVDRM. The only part I would like to ask is:- As its the main menu I am editing, Is it ok to copy the commands that where on my original buttons? I.e. R[8] = 4096, not really sure what (R[8] = 4096) actullay means LinkTailPGC, Link PGC 8 Also the original main menu I edited was a motion menu my new menu is now a still one. Is it possible at all to extract just that cell I.e. VTS4:Menus EN:PGC 5 If its not possible with DVDRM yet can it be possibly implemented on a future version so that you can keep motion menu but still alter the background text? I've got to say Dimad......You're a GOD and well done on such an EXCELLENT piece of software.

[Sophia]

Ah ok, so SubPictures are the button 'highlight' thingies. I gotcha now... Rimmer, If you dont copy the original button commands then your export wont function properly. R[8] = 4096 is probably a marker telling the post commands that button 4 was pressed. With LinkTailPGC it jumps to the post commands after it set R[8]. This technique is pretty common, Set a value and goto post commands. This thread has mutated some so I just want to recap. 1. Convert 'Motion Menu' (or non-menu) to a 'Single Frame', with the intent of changing it to 'Infinity' or 'XX Second Delay' 2. Ability to change the background of a 'Still Menu' with a properly spec'd BMP (ie 24bit, 720x480) WHILE keeping the original buttons/highlights/subpictures. 3. And maybe an easier way of doing what Rimmer did above without a need for an Authoring program (possible? maybe not) Though I was thinking of getting DVD-Lab, which may be somthing like Sonic ReelDVD 3?

[DimadSoft]

[Rimmer]

[DimadSoft]

I'm not sure if there is a tool which can extract PGC. You can used MenuEdit to delete vob/cells. Just make a copy of the vob file with the cell you need. Open it in MenuEdit and delete all other vobs/cells. Hint: start deleting from the end - this way it will process file faster.

[DimadSoft]

All posts about "prepared inserts" are moved here: http://cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=521 This thread seems more about how-to do things, so I'm moving it to "General"

[Mirx]

[Mirx]

[Sophia]

[VidHack]

Well I guess its time to earn my name in this Forum.... I too would like to take some massive Menu VOB (Terminator_3 400Mb) and convert it to a series of still images, that still retain the menu functionality. Yea, Yea, use some Shrink App, but how about some Freeware alternitives and of coarse DVDreMake. Keep in mind, you will still have to edit the Commands, so the entire new menu doesn't play in a few seconds... You were definately on the right track, use DVDremake to shrink the original Menu by using the 'Cut from Here' option on all the VOB segments in the Menu VOB. If you export the Test disk now, my Menu went from 400Mb to 7Mb. Not too shabby. But, we still need a bit more pruning, like you said, that annoying Audio stream has got to go! In a nutshell we want to Split, Cut, Replace. Tools Needed: DVDremake, VobEdit, vStrip(Gui) Note: Whatever you do, don't mess up Nav Packs, they are the key to this Hack, they will retain the sub-picture button info, and if you dont know what a LBA is, I may loose you...Sorry... Back to the Hack... Fire-up vStrip and load in the Menu VOB, yea, yea, ignore the warning "Looks like a Menu VOB..." No kidding, we know its a menu.... Now you could use Ifoedit to do some of these steps but vStrip is good enough. We will use vStrip to rip out the garbage streams in the menu VOB (Audio/subtitles...) and leave us just the NavPack Header and a short video sequence. Under output tab: Select a name for the Output, put it into a new directory, then select, Split by VOB ID, and select Substreams (In substreams, DESELECT all AUDIO/SUBTitle Streams [0xC0-0xC7][x20,x21], press the GO button, in about 2 seconds your done! So, what do you get? You now have the Menu Split up by VOB ID, with VOBS that dont have any AUDIO or garbage in them! Interested Yet? All we need to do now is cut them down to a single frame of Video and use DVDremake/Menuedit to replace the VOB segment (Make Sence?) (Hope So). This is sort-of technical, hope you get it.... Now open up VOBedit, load in one of those bigger split Menu Vobs, so that you have a Motion Menu. In VobEdit, you can select, preview to watch it. OK, lets slice it down to a single frame, to jam back into the original menu... In VOBedit, you will see that the FIRST PACK on the LEFT is 000000 and it MUST be a NAV PACK, then looking down the LBA numbers...find the first one that's a VIDEOPACK [p], 07ec, right down the LBA line number (In my case its 000057), this is now where we cut this VOB up. Load this VOB into vStrip, but in the END LBA input box put the LBA where you found your VIDEOPACK [p], then select the Output Tab and save the VOB... You know have a single frame VOB, no sound and all button info/VOBid/Cellid info intack. Fire up DVDremake (or MenuEdit) and replace the HUGE VOB with this kb VOB, do this for as many huge motion VOBS as you want, then adjust the Commands so that the Menu is usable. You now have single frame menu's with all buttons working, not too shabby - Huh? I hope this makes sense to you all, and I hope I didn't leave anything out. Heck if your reading this, it should be a piece of cake. Enjoy VidHack

[SirQUK]

A very nice Hack vid dude!! thnx:)

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