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sjw Newbie

Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: Movies pausing at chapter changes |
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| Hi, My friend is backing up a movie and removing some buttons etc. in DVD Remake Pro (2.6.4). It exports OK and then puts it through DVD Shrink. When it's burned to disk the movie pauses for about a second at every chapter change. Any ideas? EDIT: just seen this thread Thought the problem was fixed in 2.6.2? Thanks |
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drama Senior Member

Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 214
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Mr_Fixer Moderator

Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 466
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Movies pausing at chapter changes |
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| sjw wrote: | | Hi, My friend is backing up a movie and removing some buttons etc. in DVD Remake Pro (2.6.4). It exports OK and then puts it through DVD Shrink. When it's burned to disk the movie pauses for about a second at every chapter change. Any ideas? EDIT: just seen this thread Thought the problem was fixed in 2.6.2? Thanks | If your firmware is not up to date and you are using poor quality media and burning to fast, this will cause the problem you are experiencing. If you are not sure if your firmware is current and what grade media you are using, then take a blank DVD and put it in the drive and open DVD Decrypter and click Mode>ISO>Write and then copy and paste the info in the right window pane and post it here in a reply and I will look at it and tell you if you need to update your drive firmware and what grade media you are using. |
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toaddub Moderator

Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 1986
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| sjw, your post is similar to this thread here: http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1879 Upgrade to newest version first and see. A pause sounds like a layer break, but Shrink should remove that flag if you have that option checked. Well, I could be wrong in your pause case. |
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sjw Newbie

Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Hi. The firmware is current. I've got a Pioneer 108 and an NEC 3520. The media is good quality. It's Ritek (proper Ritek disks, not rebranded) G04 and G05 and also Verbatim. The pauses are longer than layer breaks. The software, as far as I'm aware is proper. |
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Mr_Fixer Moderator

Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 466
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| sjw wrote: | | Hi. The firmware is current. I've got a Pioneer 108 and an NEC 3520. The media is good quality. It's Ritek (proper Ritek disks, not rebranded) G04 and G05 and also Verbatim. The pauses are longer than layer breaks. The software, as far as I'm aware is proper. | The problem you are having I have had in the past with other media than G04's. They were -R disks and when I tried to burn them at 4x I would end up with the same results. I found by lowering the speed to 2x corrected the problem. The original pausing problem was corrected in 2.6.2 The latest version is 2.6.6 You may want to tell your friend to update to the current version and try that. The movie you are having problems with, does it have theatrical and extended versions? |
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Mirx Respected Member

Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 696
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| sjw wrote: | | The software, as far as I'm aware is proper. | If it's legit software, it takes 5 minutes to get a new version. Face it, the SSG releases are f*cked, so don't use them. Simple as that. Peeps here got better things to do than trying to help with problems that occur because the crackers messed up the source code. If you're friend tries 2.6.6 and the problem still occurs, I'm sure he'll get full support from Dimad, and as much help as possible from the members on this board. If the problem still occurs, just host the ifo's somewhere, and I'm sure someone (either the creator or a helpfull member on this board) will lend an helping hand, and simulate the problem. |
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SirQUK Webmaster

Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2732 Location: Locked in the CDR-Zone basement
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I can confirm the SGG release is very crippled. Its not bad demo for what DRM can do usability wise but it does have a nasty habit of not exporting commands properly. Please try 2.6.6 and see if the issue still arises... |
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SirQUK Webmaster

Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2732 Location: Locked in the CDR-Zone basement
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| One posible cause of the skipping if it is near the end could be enhanced or modified firmware. At what speed and with which firmware did you record these DVDs? |
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sjw Newbie

Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, many thanks for your replies. I'm not seeing him til Wed so won't be able to check but will send a mail and get him (hope he can!!) to get the update. Disks were burned at 8x. What's SSG? Again, thanks for your support. From what you're saying I assume I couldn't install his version on my PC anyway to test because it's tied to the PC. (besides the fact I assume the EULA wouldn't allow it.) Again, thanks for your support. |
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Mr_Fixer Moderator

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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| sjw wrote: | | Disks were burned at 8x. | If you will have your friend try the next burn at 4x instead of 8x, I bet you will see a difference. |
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toaddub Moderator

Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 1986
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr_Fixer wrote: | | If you will have your friend try the next burn at 4x instead of 8x, I bet you will see a difference. | Not always true, but you can try. It all depends whether the firmware has a good writing strategy for the media. To test whether your media has a good burn, use Nero CD-DVD Speed -> Extra -> Disc Quality test. Scan at 4x. If the end result as PI errors of 280 or less, and PI failures of 32 or less, you have a good burn. Forget the single high spikes. Besides using Nero tool, you can use Kprobe scan. |
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erdoke Respected Member

Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 342 Location: Lat. 47.3350 ° | Long. 21.3850 °
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| toaddub wrote: | | To test whether your media has a good burn, use Nero CD-DVD Speed -> Extra -> Disc Quality test. Scan at 4x. If the end result as PI errors of 280 or less, and PI failures of 32 or less, you have a good burn. Forget the single high spikes. Besides using Nero tool, you can use Kprobe scan. | Right now that's not a good idea with Pioneer DVR-108 and NEC ND-3520A burners. (You can delete Brand restrictions in the registry, but still it will be crap, not Disc Quality Test ) |
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SirQUK Webmaster

Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2732 Location: Locked in the CDR-Zone basement
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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The 108 is not an accurate scanner for Disc Quality tests but it will give you a general idea of quality as used by MI5 Here. As far as I am aware the NEC 3520 does not support this feature until a new firmware is released although early test results show it is like the 108 - only to be used for a general idea. For Disc Quality scans you can't beat a Liteon DVD Writer such as the 1653 I use for the cdr-zone reviews or a Plextor writer which I am reliably informed ( i've seen the results ) is very close to Liteon scans. BenQs are not bad but they do tend to disagree with what the Liteon and Plextors report. Anyway time to get back on topic - we don't even now if it is a media issue for sure yet  |
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Xiaopang Junior Member

Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 65
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| This is not a writer related problem and has nothing to do with firmware. If this prob only occurs when cells are switched, then it's because there's a layer break. You can check that with ifoedit. Although DVDShrink should remove layer breaks automatically, it's a known bug that this most of the time doesn't work, so you'll have to remove it manually with ifoedit. |
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