(resolved) buttons missing in drm pro 2.6.4

[mazinz]

i have never run into this error until now. I re-did a disc and had replaced the audio menu with a new one i made (same methods i always use). the export and everything go fine, and it works perfectly in powerdvd. However on any homedeck tried, the buttons fail to show up on that imported menu (but you can still select what items you have to and that works), PLUS on some decks it stretches out that menu as if it were telling the machine the menu is a 16x9 only, when in the ifo info for it, menus are set to 16x9 AND pan/scan. I have done everything correctly, and i have never had this issue before just do not know why its showing up now? I know previous versions people had similar issues, but nothing yet with 2.6.4. which is why i am making this post, thanks again for any and all info

[Mirx]

double check you're authoring program and make sure you muxed you're new menu as pan-scan. 99% of the menu's will use letter-box. You need to mux it as pan-scan, otherwise you're button mapping will be screwed.

[mazinz]

menu was muxed as 4:3. (not specified perm display). The pic i used was actually the menu itself from the original (720x480 - used drm to export the frame). I just re-opened it up in adobe and altered it a bit, saved the new picture. Used Ulead to make new menu options and then imported (doing the clut and button import as well) I use ulead to do this quickly (instead of Maestro) and have done this same operation countless times before with this app and never had an issue till now

[kattivik]

Hi Mazinz I experienced exactly same problem and,as Mirx said,it all depends on how you have edited your replacing menu.If replaced block was part of a multi-cell pgc containing blocks with pan-scan attributes you should have to build your replacing menu with the same pan-scan attribute.Otherwise you can act also this way even if this is a forced way of acting.You need to have pgcedit(probably you already know it).Well,open your movie in pgcedit and select the VTST containing your replaced menu.With button EDIT PGC open the relative operating window and select CURRENT DOMAIN STREAMS ATTRIBUTES and set as AUTOMATIC PAN&SCAN.Save your dvd(it will change only IFOs)and test the same in your standalone player.In this way,of course,buttons highligthing will not appear exactly the way you set it but it should work.Sorry for my english hoping this will help you rgds Kattivik

[mazinz]

Thank you both for your info, but..... Absolutely nothing worked!!!! I tried every method and combination and still its all screwed up I went back to using dvd Maestro as that lets you set the menu for 16x9 or 4:3. I tried both, no dice with either. I then tried actually making the 720x480 like a true 16x9 (cutting 60 off the top and bottom), authored as letterboxed nothing, authored as 4:3 nothing . I used various combinations of changing the info in the ifo file with ifoedit for the menus, still nothing. I am convinced either something is screwy on the disc from the way it was originally authored or their is some unknown error/bug happening somewhere. Again i have done this before with various menus on various dvds and have never had an issue such as this. Any help, as im giving up at this point for the record, the stupid film project was for the US return of the living dead 2. They wrecked the original audio by removing and replacing most of the music and so forth. I went ahead, re-authored the disc with the original audio. In the end it still had 3 audio streams like before and the substitution block method worked fine. The entire disc works fine but that one damn menu screen, and i still find it ironic since i used the export frame for the menu i altered. Again any more help would be grand i do want to say GOD bless you guys at DRM pro for making the export test option!! God knows how many hours i would have wasted had it not been for that ---

[mazinz]

the longer work around i was thinking about would be to add a VTS title to the project and then add a program chain, then copy the pgc info for the file with my dummy menu that wont work right (when mixed with the others) and append this to the newly made vts pgc info. Essentially making the menu its own title. Although as far as selecting the 2 audio tracks from this menu to reflect the file in the first title set, im not sure you could do? keep ya posted

[NowWhereWasI]

Hi Mazinz, If you are missing the buttons showing up in remake check the remake options box, make sure the "BOV" search timing is higher than 3. If your missing buttons due to a newly created menu that is a different story too. Regards, N.

[mazinz]

hello, the buttons show up fine in remake as well as playing it on the pc, but any homedeck tried, the buttons do not show, whether the menu is stretched or not, and no matter how many times i have imported hte buttons back in, they still fail to show. Its more of what crazy method did they use to encode the menus. I just tried another test and used tmpg to encode that jpg pic to 16x9. that at least got the pic to technically display properly but still no buttons show. I just increased the bov to 9 seconds and although i do not think that will affect the test export, i am willing to try anything at this point

[mazinz]

ok next step is im going to export all of the menus from this dvd, and re do them all as 4:3 in Maestro, get the button info (although im pretty sure i will have to make new buttons since the pic encode will be different) and make a dummy dvd then import them as program chains in the existing menu layout, use block subsitute and give it a shot that way. Thank goodness its only 8 menus i have to contend with--WOOO nothing is ever easy is it

[kattivik]

Hi again Mazinz I'm following your "odyssey" with many interest as said I eexperienced exactly same problem(pls have a look to my post) http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1647 Of course,I don't want to bother you with my suggestions nor I want "to teach" you nothing but I'm quite sure that when you build your replacing menu something wrong is occurring.I really don't know if dvdmaestro and/or ulead give you the possibility to set aspect-ratio and display mode for widescreen menu on 4:3 tv sets as I have never used them.For this reason I only can tell you abt my experience authoring the replacing menu with dvd-lab. First step I made was to check the attributes of the menu I was going to replace using pgcedit (free prog) as per following steps 1. import dvd in pgcedit to know its detailed streams attributes 2. identify menu to be replaced and select it 3. open pgc editor with PGC EDIT button 4. then with CURRENT DOMAIN STREAMS ATTRIBUTES verify video aspect-ratio and display mode for 4:3 tv sets. Having done these preliminary steps I built my replacing menus accordingly setting my working project in dvd lab exactly the same way .It's very important,for 16:9 menus with PAN-SCAN features,that you re-build the same way what you are going to replace. Infact when you build 16:9 pan-scan menus you,for each button,automatically build two groups of buttons which will be suitable for both 16:9 widescreen and regular 4:3 TV sets.You can easily check this with free version of menuedit and see that one group of buttons is the stretched version of the other.This make them possible to be correctly visualized in all tv sets.So before fully re-author your movie(it should be also nice indeed) I suggest you to check again detailed replaced menu attributes and also if your authoring softs make you able to set them accordinlgly.You know then the rest of the work in DRM(Dimadsoft Tkhs again for it) Thks for your patience. Kattivik

[Mirx]

In maestro just match you're project settings to pan-scan, and menu settings to 16:9. Make sure you add atleast 1 button, otherwise you might get problems in DRM Also make sure you're color sheme is correct. You might wanna try ripping you're final menu with subrip to make sure the subpicture is in there.

[NowWhereWasI]

Hello Mazinz,

[DimadSoft]

[kattivik]

Hi to all pls have a look to the following interest article taking only the general cosiderations abt menus building(sorry for the way I've quoted it but the internet link didn't exsist anymore).It explain very well how menus work:

[mazinz]

PROBLEM SOLVED (well kind of) firstly thank you all for the very informative information you have provided!!!!! I still tried the newer methods listed (thanks Mirx for the option check, i had Maestro set to force letterbox on 16x9 menu in the options) and the lengthy info provided by Kattivik In the end it still did not work correctly. I went with my plan b and i took all of the menu pics and re-authored them as simple 4:3 items in Maestro. I used the same pic twice so i had my background and subpic, made the buttons over the text and fixed it so it just highlights the writing with the button colors and it came out very nicely. Did the usual, added pgc's in the project and copied/appended the menu items made from the new maestro dummy menu dvd, used substitution, relinked the buttons, etc. Also made sure i changed the ifo file for the menus on the test export as it gave the old info of 16x9 menus (which it no longer is) Anyway it played perfectly, all menus displayed fine as well as all button info. The only issue i cannot seem to figure out is that on the first menu page for chapter select it has chapt 2 as the highlight button (the chapter pgcs have no commands at all), and i would prefer it to have chapter 1 as the highlight. I tried some highlight commands but that did not work, any suggestions?

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