divxtodvd 0.4.8 and minimum bit rate

[lapinou]

http://www.vso-software.fr/download_product_direct.php?product=divxtodvd if you download the version 0.4.8, there is a minimum bit rate fixed now. if some people wants to give their feedback in this thread.

[JJ]

Thanks for new version. However - for most of people this fix is NOT needed, as their players are fully DVD-standard compliant and play DivXtoDVD encoded movies fine. I like the simple fact that I can put two movies to same DVD, so filesizes are needed to be pretty small as they were. Now if you have set a minimum bitrate without possibility to turn it off, you are forcing everyone to encode movies with bigger filesize. DVD-standard does NOT require minimum bitrate, it only specifies that bitrate should be between 0 and 9000. If this is just for testing; ok, but please give us a button to turn it off. Let those who have problems use it, and let rest of us have small filesize with great picture, thank you! And while I have this begging going on, please give us a chance to use Half-D1! (screen size 352*288 PAL, 352*240 NTSC) This would be great in transferring all those home movies from VHS to DVD. Using full D1 is just a waste of space, as VHS quality is even lower than Half-D1. So in short - one button to select minimum bitrate, and two more modes to picture standard selection, now there is "PAL 25 FPS" and "NTSC 29,97 FPS", just add "PAL Half-D1 25 FPS" and "NTSC Half-D1 29,97 FPS"

[JJ]

Ok, did quick test. Same movie converted with previous version and 0.48 version. Original length: 1:24:18, 25 FPS, 576*304pixels. 950kbps videostream, 200kbps audiostream. Converted (in three parts, all with different avg bitrate) Old: 2 198 657 024 bytes, 3052/3391/2519kbps New: 2 242 803 712 bytes, 3120/3444/3003kbps If this works fine with those Panasonic/Hitachi players, then great.

[bigly]

Can you see any difference in quality JJ? Doing a then and now test too - will post results! With those 'new' file sizes it will be difficult to get some 2 movie combo's on a single DVD5.

[JJ]

No visible difference on my player. Then again, there should not be, as all that change did was padding up those lower bitrates. And yes, even difference is just 200MB, that makes about 400-500MB for two movies .. not good.

[cakka]

jj, what you have to remember is that when you have converted from divx/xvid to dvd the end result becomes a hybid in effect, you wont ever buy a dvd film with only 1500/2000mb on the disc the end result is not (what you call) (dvd standard) the fix was needed for future development of sorts. i like how you still think panasonic/hitachi are not part of the dvd standard term as you imply. but you are entitled to your own opinions ha ha. i don't double up on converted films on a dvd disc, i put upto 5 films on a disc in divx/xvid form but my player is divx compliant. i like my quality to much, have you tried using dual layer media, i mean thats what its for and it would cure your problems, thus keeping more quality in the process. for the price of media these day's its just not worth cramming them on a single disc unless you use DL media. vso might answer to your request and add a button you never know. catch ya jj . cakka

[bigly]

Could be paranoid here but are technically minded people not allowed in these forums @PERSONS SUFFERING PROBLEM WHO HAVE TIME TO FLAME: VSO have specifically responded to your problem. I would have finished an encode, burn to DVD and test on my stand-alone in that time...that is, if I happened to have a Panasonic/Hitatchi stand-alone. DOES 'THE FIX' WORK? _____________________________________________ MINIMUM BIT-RATE CHANGE ~= 20% FILE SIZE INCREASE: Over 2 different input files comparing previous version to this minimum bit-rate version I have seen an average increase in file size of 20%. Most combinations of 2 movies should still fit on a DVD5. If this fixes the problems (cakka?) for 'general use' it is worth the hit! [Gotta remember this is (an amazing quality) 'click-n-go' type app for the majority, not a dedicated configurable encoder for the minority!] ______________________________________________

[JJ]

[cakka]

if you strip all extras-plus audio/subculture etc the move would still be over 3gb-. if you have movies with less than that then the quality would not be as good . fact) also i run my dvd player and tv through progressive scan so my viewing quality is of the highest standard, oh and just to let you know, of course i know what constant bitrate is and also variable bitrate cbr/vbr. but then i would, when i encode with (cce9/10-pass.dl) if you need to know what cce is then please ask. plus im very interested to know where you bought your dvd movies without menu's,extras,no subs etc. unless you buy screeners, then they would still be over 3gb.(proper dvd ) you see i only use divx to dvd if im really stuck, so it is important that it is right. im not one for converting from vhs to dvd, i dont see the point. but thats just me. oh, and remember i dont own the players in question but yet i showed my intrest on the subject, wihich vso has also done so after my tests are complete today i will verify if the fix has worked. and then if vso start to charge for this great little program there are less factors to worry about. im only interested in going from divx/xvid to dvd there are no size issues here, thanks vso. cakka

[JJ]

[bigly]

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