xvid to dvd at ntsc 23 fps

[4nT1]

hey guys, i am loving the program and using the latest version currently available 0.4.5.74 and am trying to convert an xvid which is ntsc 16x9 ratio and 23 fps, and when i try to convert it to vob, it work but the vob files are compressed heavilylike a dial up streamed movie... any ideas

[4nT1]

some further information once completed the final vob file is only 700mb or so large? am i doing something from?

[madmungo]

I also have this problem . It is hapening on ALL Xvids at 23fps regardless of screen ratio and regless of if the settings are set to auto or are set manually.

[JJ]

I just tried this; I have converted two part movie with previous version, resulting two different folders and filesets. Now I tried that same movie with batch-conversion. Original movie was NTSC 640x256 (2.50:1) [=5:2] 23,976 FPS 1054kb/s bitrate. Filesizes about 700MB both. I left settings on auto, resulting in fully working mpeg2video, 720x480, 29.97 fps, q=2-31, 4727 kb/s, audio ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 448 kb/s. Total filesize of vobs 1.88GB Results are exactly the same than what I got from previous version. Even those two vobs are exact match. I was a bit conserned when log showed over hundred videopackets being abandoned due error, but there was no visible errors on converted movie. One thing I found - log says that DivXtoDVD is setting average bitrate to 4727,5 kb/s, then I checked final VOB - it has 1620kb/s. That results a lot smaller filesize. But - conclusion; Problem did not show up, so if you can give more information about when problem occurs and details about files, maybe even log?

[madmungo]

Just downloaded the latest version and tried again and I can get it to happen with a PAL xvid file and NTSC xvid file. Log for the NTSC File 4/02/2005 6:00:58 PM info ******************** Report session closed ********************* 4/02/2005 6:00:57 PM info Avg. quantization factor 0.0 (smaller is best) 4/02/2005 6:00:57 PM warning User requested Cancellation 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info MSG Level #0 - rc buffer underflow 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info Output Stream#1 - Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info Output Stream#0 - Video: mpeg2video, 720x480, 29.97 fps, q=2-31, -1198319 kb/s 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info Stream #0.1 --> #0.1 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info Stream #0.0 --> #0.0 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info Stream mapping 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info Set Avg. video bitrate -1198319.4 kb/s 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM warning Video bitrate is very small. Maybe you should try to put less video 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM warning the input frame rate 12570329/524288 doesn't match the output frame rate(29.97Fps). Rate conpensation will be used. 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info Segment #1 - alexander.(2004).telecine.XviD.CD1.avi 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info 1 file(s) to convert - Total Time 00:00:05 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info NTSC 29.97 FPS output format has been selected 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info 16:9 automatically selected 4/02/2005 6:00:22 PM info conversion started 4/02/2005 6:00:19 PM info Delay of audio #0 = 491 mS 4/02/2005 6:00:19 PM info Computed Frame Aspect Ratio : 2.3529 4/02/2005 6:00:19 PM info Stream#1 - Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, 125 kb/s 4/02/2005 6:00:19 PM info Stream#0 - Video: mpeg4, 640x272, 23.98 fps 4/02/2005 6:00:19 PM info Found 2 Stream(s) - movie duration 00:00:05.034 4/02/2005 6:00:19 PM info Input file "*:\*******\al****der.(2004).telecine.XviD.CD1.avi" 4/02/2005 5:59:45 PM info User default language : 3081 (0x0C09h) - English (Australian) 4/02/2005 5:59:45 PM info System default language : 3081 (0x0C09h) - English (Australian) 4/02/2005 5:59:45 PM info Version 0.4.5.74 4/02/2005 5:59:45 PM info ExeName : "H:\DVD-RIP\DivxToDVD\DivxToDVD.exe" 4/02/2005 5:59:45 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Log for the PAL File 4/02/2005 5:56:34 PM info ******************** Report session closed ********************* 4/02/2005 5:56:27 PM info Avg. quantization factor 0.0 (smaller is best) 4/02/2005 5:56:27 PM warning User requested Cancellation 4/02/2005 5:56:18 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2197 4/02/2005 5:56:18 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2195 4/02/2005 5:56:18 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2193 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2191 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2189 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2187 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2185 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2183 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2181 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2176 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2174 4/02/2005 5:56:17 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 2169 4/02/2005 5:55:49 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 821 4/02/2005 5:55:49 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 819 4/02/2005 5:55:49 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 817 4/02/2005 5:55:49 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 815 4/02/2005 5:55:49 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 813 4/02/2005 5:55:49 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 811 4/02/2005 5:55:49 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 809 4/02/2005 5:55:43 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 501 4/02/2005 5:55:42 PM warning video packet dropped due to error on frame 460 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info MSG Level #0 - rc buffer underflow 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info Output Stream#1 - Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info Output Stream#0 - Video: mpeg2video, 720x576, 25.00 fps, q=2-31, -32435 kb/s 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info Stream #0.1 --> #0.1 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info Stream #0.0 --> #0.0 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info Stream mapping 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info Set Avg. video bitrate -32435.2 kb/s 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM warning Video bitrate is very small. Maybe you should try to put less video 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info Segment #1 - 011.bat*****ar.ga*****ca.xvid.avi 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info 1 file(s) to convert - Total Time 00:00:02 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info PAL 25 FPS output format has been selected 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info 16:9 automatically selected 4/02/2005 5:55:33 PM info conversion started 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info Delay of audio #0 = 32 mS 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM warning Can't decode frame 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info MSG Level #0 - header damaged 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info MSG Level #0 - Error, header damaged or not MPEG4 header (qscale=0) 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info Computed Frame Aspect Ratio : 1.7391 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info Stream#1 - Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 128 kb/s 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info Stream#0 - Video: mpeg4, 640x368, 25.00 fps 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info Found 2 Stream(s) - movie duration 00:00:02.171 4/02/2005 5:55:26 PM info Input file "H:\011.bat*****ar.ga*****ca.xvid.avi" 4/02/2005 5:55:00 PM info User default language : 3081 (0x0C09h) - English (Australian) 4/02/2005 5:55:00 PM info System default language : 3081 (0x0C09h) - English (Australian) 4/02/2005 5:55:00 PM info Version 0.4.5.74 4/02/2005 5:55:00 PM info ExeName : "H:\DVD-RIP\DivxToDVD\DivxToDVD.exe" 4/02/2005 5:55:00 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) I also have the fist 25 - 30 seconds of each video converted to a Vob file to see the resulting lack of quality.

[JJ]

Okay - that second file (Colonial Day), have you converted it? I got that file with packed bitstream, I think you have the same. Use MPEG4 Modifier to open those packed bitstreams, then try again. http://www.moitah.net/ -home of MPEG4 Modifier Something is badly wrong by checking your logs -

[bigly]

madmungu, I have exactly the same XviD as your first log so I will attempt to do DivXToDVD on it to see if I get the same issue but it will be a few hours before I post back the result as I'm @ work now! I have a couple of tools to analyse and report about the XviD format so if I get the same issue I will check out JJs idea. BTW - For a Telecine rip, the actual source XviD is pretty bad quality in the first place. It's such a long movie that even on 2CDs the MPEG-4 is low bit rate.

[madmungo]

Just downloaded MPEG4 Modifier and ALL the NTSC files that give this problem have a packed bitstream and under User data it has DivX999b000p and XviD0036. and the PAL ones have Xvid0037. After unpacking the NTSC files they worked OK but the PAL file still gives the same quality. PAL Log. 5/02/2005 7:13:30 PM info ******************** Report session closed ********************* 5/02/2005 7:13:29 PM info Avg. quantization factor 0.0 (smaller is best) 5/02/2005 7:13:29 PM warning User requested Cancellation 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info MSG Level #0 - rc buffer underflow 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info Output Stream#1 - Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info Output Stream#0 - Video: mpeg2video, 720x576, 25.00 fps, q=2-31, -32435 kb/s 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info Stream #0.1 --> #0.1 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info Stream #0.0 --> #0.0 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info Stream mapping 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info Set Avg. video bitrate -32435.2 kb/s 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM warning Video bitrate is very small. Maybe you should try to put less video 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info Segment #1 - 011.bat*****ar.ga*****ca.xvid-unpacked.avi 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info 1 file(s) to convert - Total Time 00:00:02 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info PAL 25 FPS output format has been selected 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info 16:9 automatically selected 5/02/2005 7:13:11 PM info conversion started 5/02/2005 7:13:09 PM info Delay of audio #0 = -8 mS (Advance) 5/02/2005 7:13:09 PM info Computed Frame Aspect Ratio : 1.7391 5/02/2005 7:13:09 PM info Stream#1 - Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 128 kb/s 5/02/2005 7:13:09 PM info Stream#0 - Video: mpeg4, 640x368, 25.00 fps 5/02/2005 7:13:09 PM info Found 2 Stream(s) - movie duration 00:00:02.171 5/02/2005 7:13:09 PM info Input file "H:\Lanning\Battlestar Galactica\011.ba*****tar.ga*****ca.xvid-unpacked.avi" 5/02/2005 7:13:00 PM info User default language : 3081 (0x0C09h) - English (Australian) 5/02/2005 7:13:00 PM info System default language : 3081 (0x0C09h) - English (Australian) 5/02/2005 7:13:00 PM info Version 0.4.5.74 5/02/2005 7:13:00 PM info ExeName : "H:\DVD-RIP\DivxToDVD\DivxToDVD.exe" 5/02/2005 7:13:00 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) So it looks to be a packed bitstream issue with NTSC files but unknown for the PAL files I have..

[bigly]

Glad you got Alexander working but I didn't have any problem at all when putting it directly through DivXToDVD so maybe it's a different DL we had! As for BSG, I have the same problem with the later episodes from the FOV group. Those from the SFM group seem fine so FOV have probably packed the later ones differently. (It seems the duration is incorrectly reported whether the header is packed or not which is what is throwing DivXToDVD off on bit-rate calculations.)

[JJ]

Confirm on both. No problems converting NTSC to PAL or PAL to NTSC. No problem on BSG episode by released by FOX. Episode lenght 0:41:55, screen 624*352pixels. Same problem with BSG episodes released by FOV. Episode lenght 0:41:47, screen 640*368pixels. When converting it sets average bitrate to -79716,7kb/s but during conversion it uses about 600kb/s, that will make bad result. DivXtoDVD claims lenght to be about 2 seconds. (actual is about 44minutes) Conversion finished - file lenght 240MB, quality poor, unusable. Here are example headers of both files: http://www.saunalahti.fi/jakomul/DivXtoDVD/example-fov.bin http://www.saunalahti.fi/jakomul/DivXtoDVD/example-fox.bin These are just headers, so they wont play. These are for developers to check and maybe create a fix.

[JJ]

More weird problems - when original file has been NTSC 23.98FPS, it has been automatically converted to NTSC 29.97FPS. That file plays fine with PowerPlayer. When I try to load it as DVD-file to TMPGEnc DVD-author (two movies - need to make menus too) it gives error "can not initialize decoder". Then I converted that same file again, this time forcing it to PAL 25FPS. Surprise - TMPGEnc loads it without problems! Pretty surprising. Next check was to try that original directly with TMPGEnc 2.5 - just to find out that TMPGEnc claims that file to be twice the lenght it actually is! Well.. nothing is perfect. So far looks like that best results are coming with DivXtoDVD, forcing to PAL. Wish it would have some way to make menus!

[bigly]

That must be a file specific issue as I've done quite a few from 23>29 FPS without problems.

[claire]

Hi, you can try the newest (trial/in testing) version, divxtodvd (047), at: http://vso.nerim.net the last update is from the 9th of feb claire

[bigly]

Thanks Clare - do you know if the topic of this thread is one of the minor bug fixes in this release?

[claire]

Hi, I am sorry I have no idea, but there is already a newer version than the one I sent you to earlier, sorry for all the changes but lets hope it means the program is just getting better and better. http://vso.nerim.net/vsoDivxToDVD_setup_048.exe claire

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