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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: (Win98 problem ??) Error While Parsing a Large Cell Reply with quote

I have been getting the following error when working with The Godfather Part 2, disc 1 (from the Godfather DVD Collection): "Error while parsing cell.", then "Warning there could be problems exporting this disc." The cell that triggers the error is VTS 1, PGC 1, cell 18. This cell is very large (1222.39MB). Does DVDRM Pro have a limit to how large a cell can be? I thought that this might be the case because when you select this cell, it seems to read almost to the end and then triggers this error (it takes about 30 seconds after selecting the cell), as if DVDRM is limited to 1 GB. Is this the case, or does size not matter? Shocked BTW, I'm using version 2.4.4
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRM will work with vob files large then 1Gb. We will have to double check what will happen if one cell is large then 1Gb. Do we understand it right: you can import disk, but latter on during parsing for preview you get the error? Is there any message in the log file?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do we understand it right: you can import disk, but latter on during parsing for preview you get the error? Is there any message in the log file?
That's right, it imports fine. The log file only shows "Warning! There could be problems exporting this disk!"
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any problems during export or with the playback of exported disk?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, I haven't tried to export it yet. I was trying to do a split there. The original movie is on 2 discs. The first disc is a fairly full dual-layer disk and disc 2 is on a single layer disc. I was going to move a few chapters from disc 1 to disc 2 so I don't have to Shrink it as much. This has worked well for me on other 2-disc movies, such as Pearl Harbor. For disc 2, I was going to hide all the cells before this cell in question (the first cell to be on my disc 2) and then copy the PGC from disc 2 for the rest of my disc 2. When I selected this cell to "Hide blocks before this" I got this error. I will try to export all of disc 1, without previewing this cell, to see is it works. I'll let you know what happens.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi and welcome to the forums rubicat is this the black box collection and if so what Region is it? I have Region 2 handy so I can always try it if need be Smile p.s size does matter sometimes Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DimadSoft wrote:
DRM will work with vob files large then 1Gb. We will have to double check what will happen if one cell is large then 1Gb. Do we understand it right: you can import disk, but latter on during parsing for preview you get the error? Is there any message in the log file?
I have the two backups which I mentioned earlier (chapter point insertion thread). It has all the movie located in a single cell. DRM didn't have any problems opening, splitting and exporting it. So I think this issue is not due to cell size limitations.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MackemX wrote:
Hi and welcome to the forums rubicat is this the black box collection and if so what Region is it? I have Region 2 handy so I can always try it if need be Smile
Hello MackemX. Yes it is the black box collection. I have region 1. If you want to see if you can reproduce the error, just preview VTS 1, PGC 1, cell 18 (chapter 13). Let the whole cell load and towards the end is when I get the error. I'm assuming that region 2 is laid out the same. I have tried exporting several times. If I make any changes, it exports with no errors but the disc does not playback. Only if I export without making any changes to VTS 1 will it playback. Playback fails even if I don't encounter the "Error while parsing cell error." I can avoid the error if I don't preview cell 18.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with erdoke. We've done some tests - no problem with large cells. It must be something else not just size.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cells larger than 1Gb do seem to be a problem on my system. I found a couple more 1Gb+ cells on Billy Bathgate and they do the same thing--about 30 seconds of disk activity and then the "Error Parsing Cell." Could this be a Windows 98 thing? I am using WIN98SE. I know most are using XP now, but I still have not upgraded (I'd rather not). So far every cell that is >1Gb that I have tried triggers this error.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be since Win98 uses FAT32 & XP uses NTFS. I've had several dvd's with very large cells (1200MB -> 1800MB/cell) never had any problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitespliff wrote:
Could be since Win98 uses FAT32 & XP uses NTFS. I've had several dvd's with very large cells (1200MB -> 1800MB/cell) never had any problems.
I remember that FAT32 is OK up to 2 GB file size but maybe I'm wrong. Question
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I remember that FAT32 is OK up to 2 GB file size but maybe I'm wrong.
Actually, FAT32's file size limit is 4Gb.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject: RE: Fat32 partitions Reply with quote

Hello, I've run across this once before but instead of copying vob files I was doing DV captures on a FAT32 formatted disk and even though it looked as if the captures were going to work and the edit s/w did not balk. When played back, somewhere along the line the video always got corrupted. Someone suggested that I upgrade my primary disc to Win2000 or XP, I did that and I also formatted the secondary (capture) disc to NTFS and my probs. went away! You could do a scandisk and see if any of your files might be cross linked. N.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NowWhereWasI wrote:
I've run across this once before but instead of copying vob files I was doing DV captures on a FAT32 formatted disk and even though it looked as if the captures were going to work and the edit s/w did not balk. When played back, somewhere along the line the video always got corrupted. Someone suggested that I upgrade my primary disc to Win2000 or XP, I did that and I also formatted the secondary (capture) disc to NTFS and my probs. went away! You could do a scandisk and see if any of your files might be cross linked.
I don't think that this is the case here. I have no other problems with the VOB files containing these cells. I can play them with no problem. If I do a 1:1 copy with Shrink, everything works fine. The problem seems to be with DRM and only with discs that have cells >1Gb. I have another Win98SE system that I would like to test this on to see if it is a Win98 issue or some other issue with my system. Does my license allow me to install DRM on this second system for testing purposes?
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