(fixed?)Sony FREEZE with RM&RB (Now with RM&Shrink o

[geffroman]

I have posted this in the DVD Rebuilder section at Doom9 as well... But would also like to address it to the minds of ReMake... Final Test Results done... I have re-titled this thread to be more appropriate. So far I have learned that we have a two fold problem. Some have told me it is a ReMake issue. I see it as Rebuilder related. Fact is, it requires Rebuilder AND ReMake AND a Sony player to create this problem. Simply put there is a FREEZE issue on Sony players when using REBUILDER on REMAKE data. jdobbs says not to compare the results of Shrink as it is a different tool altogether. However, the Remake data on it's own or compressed by other means does NOT cause the freeze. The Rebuilder data on it's own does not cause the freeze. Used together these programs cause the freeze. So if REMAKE data works until REBUILDER tears it apart and puts it back together REBUILDER has some involvement. I am only interested in a solution. This is NOT about assigning blame. I hope anyone that chooses to look into this with me keeps that in mind. There is NO better solution for automated compression than REBUILDER. There is NO better solution for automated editing than REMAKE. Let's try to tear down the wall and make these programs work together. You can find one of the FREEZEs by selecting DELETED SCENES... Select PLAY ALL... First obvious freeze occurs between deleted scene 1 and 2... If you select scene 2 the freeze will not happen... If you let scene one end and the dvd navigates to scene two, freeze will occur at the beginning of the scene where Jackie Brown is talking to Michael Keaton in the restaurant. Thanks for any assistance. IFO files located here

[geffroman]

Got a new one... Sony Freeze with DVD-RM and Shrink on Walking Tall... All extras just stop at the opening of the first cell... It seems if I open the data in PGCEdit after DVD-RM is done and make this 2 to 10 or 10 to 2 change people are talking about this gets cleared up... Anyone else having Walking Tall issues... ?

[erdoke]

[geffroman]

I am stupified... If I run the movie raw with Shrink it works fine... But DVD-RM first and the movie plays fine but ALL Extras just skip and return to menu... Commands have not been bypassed... some of the extras will show a blip of the first cell and then return to the menu... I love this movie... I would sure like to be able to watch the extras on my backup disc... I tried the change 2 to 10 thing in PGC Edit and no help... I have posted IFOs to raw data and DVD-RM data HERE Thanks for anyone that wants to help...

[MackemX]

did you try running the whole DVD through without removing anything? what is your BOV setting? are you sure the commands haven't been bypassed or do you mean you haven't jumped straight to the menu? I see quite a few places where the post commands have been added to the pre commands and this means autobypass is turned on I also see that a cell command has appeared in VTS2/PGC1 & VTS6/PGC1 ('Link TailPGC') for some reason in the original VTS3/PGC2 has a total time of 8:45.17 yet the total of the cells is 8:44.19 and DRM corrects this to show 8:45.17. The same goes for VTS5/PGC3 where there is a 4 frames discrepancy. There may be more but I don't see how it could affect playback but who knows have you tried it without autobypass turned off? are there any hidden buttons anywhere in the DVD?

[geffroman]

Yes auto bypass is on... When I said commands have not been bypassed... I meant blocks I did NOT HIDE did not get bypassed by mistake... so it isn't that... I hid unwanted language and subtitle buttons... I Hid All blocks in the VIDEO_TS which contained FBI, Studio and 400MB of the beginning of the movie for no reason... I Hid Blocks for the previews that started before the main menu in the LAST VTS group... That's it... same as 100 other DVDs... It is just bizzare that EACH and EVERY title except the movie does this!

[MackemX]

did you try running the whole DVD through without removing anything? what is your BOV setting? are there any hidden buttons anywhere in the DVD?

[geffroman]

[geffroman]

OK... Ran it through DVD-RM again with NOTHING changed... Ran it through Shrink to fit it to a DVD-RW and it freezes just like the other discs... I changed the BOV settings to .5 secs... Posted these IFOs HERE

[MackemX]

got them and I'll take a look

[MackemX]

geoffroman, do you still have the DVDShrink output files?. Can you post a copy of those IFO's also what I need you to do is process the DVD as you would using DRM and then post a copy of those IFO's also. Keep the DRM output files as I will modify some of the data to see if you can then run those through DVDShrink and get a working copy

[geffroman]

[MackemX]

I can't remember exactly now . The more files you provide the better for testing I guess . It's a shame I don't have a Sony DVD player handy if you have the time and space you can try this. Run the complete DVD through DVDShrink at something that will produce say 4GB but the compression should be the same for the whole DVD. Get the navpacks and IFO's from this DVD run the DVD through DRM removing nothing and get a copy of the navpacks and IFO's. Run the DRM output through DVDShrink using the same overall percentage as you did in the first rip. Again get the navpacks and IFO's. Keep these DVDShrink files handy as I may be able to modify certain things to fix it so you will need to test it for me so basically it's 3 sets of files I'm after DVDShrink IFO's DRM IFO's DRM + DVDShrink IFO's have you tried running it through DRM only (blank most of the movie so it fits a DVDRW) and then tested the extras? Do they work after DRM or is it again only when you use another program afterwards that they don't?

[geffroman]

I will run the files you asked for this weekend... and NO, I have always compressed the results to place them on the DVD-RW... I will (IFOEdit) Strip the movie down and then run data through DRM and burn to disc to test uncompressed files as well on the extras...

[MackemX]

OK Cheers, I'll keep an eye out for your files and maybe we can see what is causing this issue

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